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I'm an agnostic and yet I'm strangely attracted to Judaism.

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NO. Most of the Jews I know are far too intelligent to be athiests...they are agnostic (question it all) It is just as arrogant to decree that there is No ***...as it is to decree there is one. Agnostics...are open to both possibilities. *** is a male concept, "all loving" (but condemns you to burn in **** foever) permissive enabler /cruel puinisher/double talk. I prefer Mother Nature...she's more honest!
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The only requirement he DID meet was that he was Jewish. That's all.

If you want to know what the requirements for the Messiah are, you can read them at the following link. It's only one page and won't take too long.

http://tinyurl.com/4mq7njv
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No temple = no sacrifices. Also, there were different types of sacrifices for different types of sins. Not everyone had a blemish-free goat (NOT lamb) to sacrifice, so other things could be used instead, e.g. flour, certain types of birds. Moreover, the Bible says that Hashem prefers mercy to sacrifice. He would rather we be obedient, repent and try ******, than sacrifice to begin with.

No one is "in possession" of our temple. It was destroyed long ago.
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By the way, the rebuilding of the temple is PRECISELY what ha Moshiach will do (among other things). The very fact that there IS no temple is proof that the messiah has not yet come. :)
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the passover must be kept...and it must also be a lamb...so where is your sacrifice? yes the temple was destroyed to prevent you from making the passover sacrifice and the land is in the possession of Ismael so you are also prevented from building it again...because you know you would if you could...even now priest are being trained in Israel to perform those sacrifices...so again where is your required passover?...Christ is the passover lamb
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Nope. The rebuilding of the temple is ha Moshiach's ***. Passover is remembered, yes, but what's that got to do with anything? The Angel of Death doesn't come by once a year to take all firstborns in the land. Judaism forbids human sacrifice, so no, Jesus isn't a Pesach lamb.
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the priesthood is being established even as we speak and stone is being cut to the specifications of Solomons temple,
the passover must be performed not just "remembered" and the priesthood would perform those sacrifices if Ismael was not in possession of the temple mount...and you know it.
the Jews did a lot of things that Judaism "forbids"...so what is one more transgression? the Sanhedrin proclaimed "let His blood be on our hands and the hands of our ********"...and it is...and thanks be to ***, his blood is now on my hands as well and cleanses me of all sin
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I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's not from Jewish sources. If you want to know what Jews believe, it's best to ask Jews and not people who believe in conspiracy theories. :)
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why would I do that? their Messiah came and they rejected Him.
btw, name a requirement for Messiah that Christ did not meet...Im asking you, the Jewish "authority"
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aw yes...you have confused the first and second coming as being congruent...cool link though.
also how can you claim that "Moshiach" must be born of a virgin yet complain that the mothers linage to King David (or anyone else) is not acceptable...in other words no one could qualify as "Moshiach"
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Ha Moshiach has not yet come. There are things that he will do that the entire world will see and thus no one will need to be convinced of his being Messiah when he comes. This is why Jews reject Jesus. He simply didn't qualify as Messiah; no one has, yet.
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No, I never claimed that ha Moshiach had to be born of a virgin. That's not a Jewish belief - it's a Christian one. Judaism says that ha Moshiach will just be an ordinary human being, with nothing Divine about him.

Further, there is no "second coming" - if that were the case, why isn't Obama the messiah? Or Charlie Chaplin? He'll just finish the *** next time around, after all. Even IF the messiah was to get a "second chance" at things, Jesus STILL wouldn't be ha Moshiach until such time as the "second coming" occurred.
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Jesus offered to "finish" the *** but was rejected by the nation to which he offered.

In Isaiah 7:14, the prophet Isaiah addresses the "house of David," meaning the family and descendants of King David, and speaks of a virgin being pregnant with a *****, and giving birth to the *****. Isaiah says this in the context of it being a sign from ***. He also says that the ***** would be referred to as "Immanuel," which means, "*** with us."

The New Testament books of Matthew and Luke record details involving the birth of Jesus, who was born about 700 years after the time of Isaiah, saying that he was born of the virgin Mary and is the Son of ***. Because he is the Son of ***, Jesus literally can be referred to as "*** with us."

Non-Christian scholars have challenged this interpretation. They say that the Hebrew word "almah," which is the word that Christian Bibles often translate as "virgin," actually means "young maiden" or "young woman." It should be noted that the Old Testament uses the word to refer to young, unmarried women, and that unmarried women were culturally and religiously expected to be virgins. One example can be found in Genesis 24:43, where it speaks of a person being sought as a bride for Isaac
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Actually, the ***** in Isaiah is predicted AND born by the *** of the book of Isaiah. There is absolutely no mention of Jesus there whatsoever. Further, if Jesus had been ha Moshiach, he would have done what was required regardless of whether Jews "accepted" him, since ha Moshiach's role is for everyone, not just the Jews - for example, world peace is for everyone, not just a select few - otherwise, it wouldn't be world peace. So really, what you just said is irrelevant to the points I've already made. The requirements have not been fulfilled, and until such time as they are, ha Moshiach has not come.
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at the *** of Isaiah the Lion eats straw like the Bullock too...but that hasn't yet happened either.
you are confusing at least three different prophecies as one.

the Kingdom of *** and the Kingdom of Heaven are two separate things.
I as a gentile dog, can not be Baptized by the Baptism of John into the Kingdom of ***...only you can, and then through your ministry (the ministry of Israel) as a gentile I am brought into the Kingdom of Heaven....YOU are my only hope, (I ******** you are a Jew) but the nation of Israel rejected their Messiah (not mine) so Christ gave the preaching of the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven to the gentiles...(I hope I haven't confused the two kingdoms as well...lol)
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My apologies for the delayed response. I've been quite unwell.

No, I'm not confusing anything. You're twisting things to represent what you want to believe - and that's your prerogative. Just don't tell me that I don't understand what Jewish scripture teaches.

I don't know why you'd refer to yourself as a "Gentile dog"; nor do I understand why you believe that Jews are your only hope. You have a very strange interpretation of things.
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I hope you are well, I have been recovering from pneumonia my self
I refer to myself as a gentile dog because I am, as Jesus himself said that I am.

Matthew 15:25-27

25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the ********'s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

if you dont understand the "gentile dogs" or that salvation comes from the Jews then you have missed the point of 3/4s of the new testament
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Actually, that reads to me as metaphor. There's a danger in taking things completely literally - in fact, ******** that any book is literal and inerrant is worshipping the book rather than its alleged source.
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then where are your sacrifices? the Jews will not be allowed to make any more sacrifices until after the rapture...why do you think that Ismael is in possession of your temple?...have fun with that
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are you on crack?...your sentences make no sense..."chined him to a stake"? I guess you mean "chained"? and who is "him"?
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Hi Ellen. The Jewish *** doesn't have an eternal **** and Judaism is not exclusive. You do not need to be Jewish to have a share in the world to come - you just need to be a good person. This is why you don't have Jews knocking on your door to convert you. Prospective converts need to approach a rabbi, not the other way around. Judaism also has no "devil" (the Jewish satan is NOT a "devil"). Don't confuse Christian and Muslim beliefs with Jewish ones. They're quite different in some very important ways. :)
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I am a Jew and I just told you. lol
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I can believe that...they didn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah and still don't. I can believe half believe in *** and half don't.
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Karl Marx, was a Jewish atheist.
Most of the Jews in Israel are secular atheists.
I don't find this surprising at all. Look at who is at the forefront of Socialist and Marxist activity in the United States and around the world. The Bolshevik Revolution was started by Atheist Jews Trotsky and Lenin.

I had numberous Jewish roommates in College, NOT ONE believed in a ***.
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What you write is proof enough that what is being taught in University and high school today, is total distortion of factual history. The Bolsheviks were NOT Jews...they were exterminators of Jews. And how many roommates could you possibly have had? two...as opposed to twenty-two? Three not Thirty?
My family is distantly related to Tzar Nicholas who was massacred by the Bolsheviks with his family
Today University is... U-Na!verse-itty....teachers My-No-R-ittys...too much of their own history to hide
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No, in my 4 years of college I lived in the dorms, apartments, houses.. Here is a list of my roomates last names. Wine, Levitch, Rosenbloom, Goldstein, Goldner, Applebaum, not to mention other Jewish friends. I was even invited to join the Jewish Sorority on Campus. I think because my last name could be considered a shortened version of a longer Jewish name.
It was through Judaism that I became a Christian. As I was studying the Old Testament, I realized that Jesus was the Messiah.

I know that the Bolsheviks exterminated Jews. My husbands Grandmother lived through the Bolshevik Revolution. His parents lived under Hitler and Stalin before escaping Latvia. My husband is a history major and has interviewed old Jewish people in Latvia. Trotsky was in fact a Jew. His real name was Lev Davidovich Bronstein.

Gregory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev, all Jews.

Read some of David Berkowitz's writings. He was a Radical in the 60's, until he saw the light.

No one is saying all JEWS are bad, the point is that many are the leaders of the communist movements in the world.
Please look it up yourself, it is not a secret.
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I believe she's referring to "Jewish" as a race rather than a religion, so it could be a possibility. I know no Jews who are athiest, personally.
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The Jews aren't a race. They're a people; a nation. A white person can't turn into a black person, but a non-Jew CAN become a Jew through conversion. Yes, it's more than just a religion, but it's definitely not a race. :)
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Tell that to a Jew.
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LOL! Well, there's me told! I agree with you, but I always thought Jews considered being Jewish a race. I type birth certificates and people wo are Jewish always put that down for ancestry.
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JEWS were forbidden ny Jewish laws to *inbreed (say no to the boss) so a pack of drag queens in lace and velvet, put a leather or metal cap over a Jew's ***** and chined him to a stake in smoldering embers
This had the Jews ***** slow roasting and the man sobbing and vomiting in agony, long before "***'s Love and mercy" Let the Jews expire. All so the drag queens could molest little song boys. This base murder snuff *********** was ALL done "in His name" You call it Messiah. I call it... Mess-sigh-eh?
It's Patriarchal=Pay-tree-are-kill. From religion to Hollywood. All snuff *********** to fornicate
When the church stopped burning Jews and witches...Hollywood offered you up the same snuff ****
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lol! :) It's complicated and confusing, which is why exchanges like this take place. It's a very fine line between "race" and "nation" - I suppose you could say that not everyone born in America is of the same "race" (I really hate that - there's only one race: the human race), and people can come from other nations and join the nation of America, thus becoming American, even if they weren't born there. In the same way, you can be born Jewish or you can become Jewish through conversion (the equivalent of naturalisation, I suppose?). It's a long and arduous process. A prospective convert has to learn to change his/her habits, learn to cook a new way, learn a new language and customs - it really is much like changing your nationality in a lot of ways. It can take years - certainly no less than one year at least. But Jews come in all shapes, colours and so on, being Caucasian, Black, Asian, European, Middle Eastern... It's just stereotypes and (in some cases, like Hitler) ignorance and extreme bigotry that perpetuate the idea of a "Jewish race".

I've also encountered a lot of Jews who themselves are ignorant of what it means to be a Jew. Then you also have the ******* debate over "Who is a Jew?" - the Orthodox and Conservative accept matrilineal descent only, whereas Reform/Pr...
lol! :) It's complicated and confusing, which is why exchanges like this take place. It's a very fine line between "race" and "nation" - I suppose you could say that not everyone born in America is of the same "race" (I really hate that - there's only one race: the human race), and people can come from other nations and join the nation of America, thus becoming American, even if they weren't born there. In the same way, you can be born Jewish or you can become Jewish through conversion (the equivalent of naturalisation, I suppose?). It's a long and arduous process. A prospective convert has to learn to change his/her habits, learn to cook a new way, learn a new language and customs - it really is much like changing your nationality in a lot of ways. It can take years - certainly no less than one year at least. But Jews come in all shapes, colours and so on, being Caucasian, Black, Asian, European, Middle Eastern... It's just stereotypes and (in some cases, like Hitler) ignorance and extreme bigotry that perpetuate the idea of a "Jewish race".

I've also encountered a lot of Jews who themselves are ignorant of what it means to be a Jew. Then you also have the ******* debate over "Who is a Jew?" - the Orthodox and Conservative accept matrilineal descent only, whereas Reform/Progressive and Reconstructionist accept both matrilineal and patrilineal descent. Then there are other smaller groups like the Karaites who only accept patrilineal descent. Confused, yet? **** So you can see why there is so much disagreement and why it's so unclear as to just what it means to be Jewish. :)
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My goodness! That is complicated! Around thirty years ago, I cared for an elderly Jewish lady in a nursing home. (I was a private caregiver hired by her daughter.) She used to educate me on some things - like how she was orthodox, but her ******** were reformed. (She didn't seem to mind it much, though) She came to this country at the age of fourteen from Poland - at the start of WWI. She and her ******** spoke Yiddish to each other - they called it Jewish! Sadie (the patient) called me Yente telebente - she hated when I would speak to any other patients! (They always asked me to help them, and she would get jealous!) Ther were probably the only really Jewish people I ever got close to. (I know lots now, but they don't seem to really celebrate it much.)
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Aww, that's sweet in a frustrating kind of way! Nice to know you're loved, but it can be frustrating when someone kind of hangs on a bit too much. lol

**** @ calling Yiddish, "Jewish" - there are quite a number of dialects spoken by Jews - Yiddish and Hebrew are the most obvious, but there are others, like Ladino (no, not Latino) and Yevanic. Hebrew is what a convert must learn, and it's also the national language of Israel.

I have friends from Poland who are Holocaust survivors. I haven't found any Polish ancestry in my family, but we had numerous relatives who were Dutch and German Jews murdered by the Nazis (more than fifty at last count). Anyone who got out of there was very lucky indeed.
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Also, I was thinking about what you were saying about putting that detail on birth certificates - the most likely reason is to prove lineage for the purposes of Jewish rites such as marriage later on. Some Jews (e.g. Orthodox and Conservative) are more strict and require evidence of someone's Jewishness before permitting certain things. It is also useful is someone wants to make Aliyah - that is, return to Israel.
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Actually, ancestry and race are part of medical statistics that go into the big information cauldron at the State level. They use those things - and others - to come up with medical statistics, such as smoking may be connected to low birthrate, etc. It doesn't really go ON the birth certificate - just in it. (Although there was a time when some of it did.)
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Ahh, okay. I didn't know that. I'm Australian, born and bred; everywhere does their own thing. Mind you, maybe they do that here, too? I have no idea - I've never seen that side of Births, Deaths and Marriages. I'm not sure how they run things. But that's a really good point. Makes sense. :)
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I have to explain it a lot to people who wonder why they are asked such questions!
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yes, the problem started when they rejected their Messiah 2000 years ago, because He didn't do what they wanted him to do.
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the book is literal, again "the Word was with *** and the Word was ***" John 1:1
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