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With atmospheric CO2 concentrations reaching the 400 ppm level, the media and a number of alarmist scientists have set off the mega-alarm bells, claiming “record high levels” of CO2 had been reached, and that the planet is on the verge of an overdose. This is based purely on ignorance of the Earth’s history.Worrying that 400 ppm is too high is like worrying about your fuel tank overflowing when it reaches the 1/8 mark during filling.Figure above-right: At 400 ppm CO2 levels are actually dangerously low in historical terms.From a historical perspective, an atmospheric CO2 concentration of 400 ppm is actually almost scraping the bottom of the barrel. Over the Earth’s history, atmospheric CO2 concentrations have ranged from 180 ppm to 7000 ppm, see Figure 1 below. On that scale we are in fact today barely above the Earth’s record lows.That 400 ppm is actually dangerously low is a fact the alarmists keep avoiding and suppressing. Below 150 ppm, plant-life dies off on a massive scale. The Earth actually came very close to that point many times over the last 2 million years during the ice ages. At the bottom of the last ice age just 20,000 years ago, life on the planet literally teetered on the brink when CO2 fell to a level of just 180 ppm. Do we really want to live on the brink of extinction?

It’s a fact that biologists have shown that once the atmospheric CO2 level falls below the 500 ppm level, plants really begin to suffer
Note that at high CO2 concentrations, such as 800 ppm, plants thrive. But as CO2 levels fall off, growth rates really start to plummet once they fall below 500 ppm. History shows that the Earth sustains much more life, i.e. is much greener and fruitful, when CO2 levels are higher, i.e. in the vicinity of 1000 ppm.
No one disputes that man’s activities have helped to increase atmospheric CO2 concentration, and it should not be in dispute that plants and life on the planet are thankful that man has done so. At 400 ppm, the planet is a safer place to be and will be even safer at 1000 ppm.

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Does this mean it is time to fire up more BBQs?
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As for global warming... forget CO2... think Methane. That is the real threat.
If you're looking for a good scary story tonight... Google methane release and global warming.
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I thought the earth was on a natural warming cycle with men helping the warming cycle to occur more rapidly than ever before? Does anyone have a good informative link video of where to start investigating or is the argument that global warming is man made??



good topic btw! EDIT - Never mind, the article posted is VERY informative.
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Very simple, only believe haft of what your hear, and if its government supported, don't believe anything. This a good start. But your going to have to dig deep in order to find somebody who has truthful information. OMHO Mother Nature pretty much takes care of the life cycle of the world. Depending on what angle the earth is, if the various ocean streams are flowing as they should be. You can't stop the earth from taking things into it hands and keep producing both O2 and CO2 both of which all life forms depend on in one way or the other. I believe that the whole thing is a great big lie, and it has been turned into a goat rope.

Another train of thought. Who would you say will be the major contributor. Russia, China, Europe, America or what. You know that sooner or later the American tax payer will carry it on the taxpayers shoulders. None of the other three are going to do anything or very little. Of course all the leftists out there will lead the way, in getting America caught is slap knee political correctness Which does nothing to help this country.

So search on, and if you find a truth out there, please pass it one.
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Good post Patriot - understood, research and then research the results I find further!

Will do!
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TY!
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TY will watch and view
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daniel wayne: all these fools (like al gore) that are trying to convince us that spending a ton of money on global warming are the danger......

Ah, but they're not interested in spending money to fix a problem they, themselves, know perfectly well, doesn't exist. To the contrary, they're only interested in making money by inventing, a problem, they, themselves, know perfectly well, doesn't exist.
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I appreciate what you're trying to do, but this is going to cause nothing but problems for you man.
They'll be like zombies groaning and shuffling around their keyboards.
And then they'll see this post.
And suddenly theres a hoard of them, all staring blankly and uncomprehendingly at the screen.
"scientists on the TV.... scientists... TV.... Science!"
And you'll develop an aneurysm.
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Don't worry about me, son. I thrive on problems, conflict and adversity. You?
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You put pressure on some, and they break; you put the same pressure on others, and it makes them stronger. Funny how that works, huh?
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Meh, I was fat enough that it just kinda hit, the flab absorbed all the energy and I kept on keeping on.
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Does this mean it is time to fire up more BBQs?
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You betcha, and while you're at it, get yourself some c02 generators that are used in greenhouses to speed up plant-growth. :)

http://www.naturalnews.com/04...
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I had one fired up this evening..And Yesterday for the football games..heck, I might just fire one up tomorrow.
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Science no longer exists. Extreme leftists have turned science into a political agenda that is not based on any evidence or fact.
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all these fools (like al gore) that are trying to convince us that spending a ton of money on global warming are the danger......all that hot air. climate is cyclical. figure out how to cope with what we cant change. this whole thing is going to come down to a bunch of big government grants (taxpayer money) given to a bunch of people who are to spend it all then publish a report saying it was too big to stop.
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Funny how these Gorebal Warmist ignor high co2 levels in the past
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Because the fools think they are part of the saved or will be allowed to live after the rest of us are gone!
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"CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 makes Earth green because it supports all plant life. It is Earth's greatest airborne fertilizer. Even man-made CO2 contributes to plant growth that in turn sustains humanity and ecosystems." co2isgreen.org

Government policies and regulations are not required for climate to cycle through its normal, natural course. It's going to get colder, it's going to get warmer, and there are, unfortunately, going to be natural disasters. Nobody caused that to happen and nobody can prevent that from occurring. Seasons and cycles . . . the evidence for those willing to research, learn, and look is in the recorded scientific records, 'unaltered' reports, and unbiased weather models.
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400 parts per million.......Take a gallon of water, and divide into a million parts....On drop into the bucket would be many times more than CO2 in the atmosphere. This bogus climate/global warming ripoff is just that, a scientific ripoff done by liberals to make money, to get control.
It is pretty simple, we, as humans, every time we take a breath and exhale, exude CO2. Plants use this, through the process of photosynthesis, to produce oxygen. It is not an accident, the Earth was designed this way. One entity feeds another.
No one would advocate polluting the environment wantonly. But, really, we are discussing PARTS PER MILLION!
Nobody talks about nitrogen, do they? Well, that is 70% of the Earths atmosphere. Plants, with the exception of a few strains, do not use this for growth. The balance of gasses in the atmosphere changes very little, almost immeasurable, from year to year.
Air quality is influenced more by local and geographic/topographic factors. So, the air in LA may not be as good as the air in San Francisco. Different surrounding mountains and wind create either a stagnant air flow, or a dynamic airstream.
If you want an unbiased, coherent look at the atmosphere, I suggest going to
http://www.drroyspencer.com/

He knows what he is talking about.
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Indeed he does know exactly that!
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You say that everyone else says different. I know a solution get rid of humans OR just spray the world with something to stop humans from reproducing while allowing everything else to thrive, Humans the cuese on earth
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Maybe you should offer yourself up to be "sprayed"...I mean, that would show your integrity, wouldn't it?
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You know, i often wonder why proponents for de-population never lead by example. Why is that?
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Spoken like a True Eugenicist!
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Bingo!

De-industrialization = De-population.
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Poision Ivy the comic book character
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I used to feel guilty about wanting kids but I am so crazy now I don't want any anymore.
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No, No, we should at worst live lightly on earth as did the 1st people of the Americas. People are a bit toxic to the earth maybe thats because the earth n heavens are not are home until we get glorified?
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Well, the native Americans had their own problems with the environment. Yes, when they fouled their village, they moved. They had no sanitary way of dealing with human waste.
Very few tribes built permanent structures. It was easy to move the "villages" to a new spot. So, they did travel lightly. They also followed the resources that were there. When the hunting died down due to overuse, they moved to "happier Hunting Grounds".So, we can romanticize the Native Americans, but, they had the same problems that humans have today, only with little technology, if any.
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they lie because the government tells them to
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Reduction of CO2 is a factor of the global elites' desire to kill us lowlife off.

reduction co2 factor global elites desire kill lowlife
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You wonder why these pseudo scientific types want to reduce CO2 specifically? I guess they want massive crop failures and the resulting famines!
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You sir are a my kind of environmentalist.
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