Are young people foolish to believe the hype that Unions are 'not' needed nowadays?

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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
moderated...
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
But, but... "it's all for the kids!"

At least that what the teachers unions always say, as they rake in the loot.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Done by people not only acting as a group but also punishing people who prefer to bargain on their own. Done by people who physically assault those who won't go along. Done by people who use words like "scab" and "solidarity" as punchlines.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I may not be understanding you fully, but the 'collective' part means working together to accomplish what can't be accomplished alone. Unions have only failed because of union busting tactics...especially nowadays because weak members thinking somehow they have and will have benefits due to the goodness of the employer, you know like WalMart.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
No. The unions are failing because they busted the employers in the States in which they can run closed shops. With the result that...well, just think "Boeing" and "South Carolina," and you'll get my drift, I'm sure.

And of course you missed one thing: Wal-Mart just raised their base wage for their associates to levels almost where the unions advertised they could take them. They did it because if they didn't, those same associates would go elsewhere. They did it because they now want to build an in-house, stay-with-the-company-for-a-l... cadre, and you don't do that by paying a wage fit for entry-level jobs only.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Why of course they aren't needed. Everyone sees the benevolence of big corporations towards their employees. Why just look at Walmart, Target, McDonalds, Chipotle and all the others. Throw in The big financial institutions, GM, GE and all the other generals. Then add their bought and paid for cronies in Washington called our congress. Farm subsidies, farmers killing wolves and bison on public lands to save their cows. Add a few special interest groups and low and behold, the American worker has no place in society anymore if he doesn't sign up for our governments plan for well being. Why, it's the best of all possible worlds. Pay nothing, disposable workers. Now I ask you, what could be better? disposable workers
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Bravo! Great comment, Merlin, I see you are one of the view that can see the whole picture...:)
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Satire and sarcasm always make a good point.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
The current COLLECTIVE BARGAINING HAS BEEN HI JACKED BY THE MAFIA AND THE DEMOCRATS TO FURTHER THEIR OWN ENDS! YES Unions were necessary and could be again ; if their purpose is to protect fairly BUT TAX PAYERS HOLD NOT BE AT THE MERCY OF UNIONS ERGO IF YOU ARE PAID FROM TAXES YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE OVER ZEALOUS DEMANDS THAT PROTECT ONE FROM BEING FIRED FOR CAUSE !!! That's why the FBI , MILITARY and the CIA will never be permitted to Unionize and why Reagan fired all the Air Traffic Controllers ... If we had better teachers we'd have smarter kids UNIONS CANNOT TRUMP THE PUBLIC GOOD
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
BALDERDASH You know it. I know it and they know it! What the Teachers Union is doing to education is what Socialism is doing to Greece
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
The key is the "collective" in the "bargaining."

"Collective bargaining" assumes no one person works any better than any one else. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that is not true.

Now ask yourselves: why have private-sector unions gone downhill? Because they struck themselves out of the marketplace.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Yes, ma'am!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I think my friend was being a tad sarcastic!!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I knew that. I wasn't attacking her I was commenting ON her sarcasm
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
You got that right!!!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Very well said!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Some unions are better than others. I know truck drivers' union worked wonders for them in Michigan and they would swear by it, but in other industries it does more harm than good.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
uh I think that where that Union Leader disappeared and supposedly is buried in Concrete? I lived right around the corner from the Inn in Bloomfield Hills from where he was taken! They had great Sunday Brunch and Cold Duck!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
unions corruption
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Which collective do you mean:

............done by people acting as a group.
"a collective protest"
.............taken as a whole; aggregate.
"the collective power of the workforce"
.............a cooperative enterprise.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I agree, if these younger generations are stupid enough to believe the company's hype, there is no hope for them...they learn this when it's too late.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I am 64 years old and have NEVER belonged to a UNION. Unions are for scared pathetic loosers. Learn an IN DEMAND skill and have some damn ass. UNIONS are for PUSSIES!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Judging by the young people these days, our future is in trouble.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
You have no clue as to what is going on out there today, do you...I see where you are either angry because you never has a skill worthwhile, or didn't get your way somewhere along the line, the only other possibility is you were jealous of those getting paid more than you for doing the same job...Your anger does not impress me at all, old man.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I have two engineering degrees and make $122,000. All my career I have had to work with and around unions. If I had MY way, UNION leaders would be taking that LONG FALL to the end of a SHORT rope. If it wouldn't get me in trouble with the company I work for, I would LOVE to pick a fight or start a DAMN war with a UNION. I despise them as much as I DO OBAMA! As i said before, UNIONS are for scared WHINEY SOCIALIST PUSSIES! Every time we open a NON-UNION plant I rejoice inside!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
If you hadn't of been so greedy you wouldn't of had to work around unions, and what I think you really mean is you had to work around employees, people, labor or whatever you called those people who had to work around you and your high and mighty attitude all those years. If I had my way it'd be puppets like you at the end of that rope. Have ya heard the South is a free zone these days? Well, here's your chance to make a difference..block yourself, because in my view you've always been wrong and will remain wrong till the day you and your kind give the earth a break. I voted for President Obama twice and will vote for him again, as I've heard he would probably win by a landslide next time. Unions are for innocent people who are unfarirly abused by white greedy old men like you. You better check, I think you may be missing what it takes to recognize a pussy. Everytime an old fool like you opens their mouth, they support what is wrong with the country and soon, not to worry, it will be corrected.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Obama supporters and UNION leaders should be used to FEED gators. You are a bunch of QUEER LOVING pussie, COWARDS. I despise you SOB"S You rbest heroics have likely done on your KNEES at the sissie bars! I LOVE BEING threatened by cowardly UNION thugs!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Lest you question my seriousness in dealing with unions, I have been among the first salaried engineers to CROSS strike lines and work in an assembly plant, doing it TWICE!. I dare the union "bullies' to MESS with me!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
I'm messing with you old man, or should I call you Scab, yeah that fits well...Scab. You have nothing left to live for, and know you've been wrong all your life, so now you become brave..that's a laugh...how about meeting up with ISIS and tellin' them how tough you are...on second thought, you should join them, they think just like you do.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Yes, I love screwing with leftist progressive COWARDS like YOU! If I thought you would come FACE to FACE, I would give a COWARD like you my address! You must be a KRAVEN COWARD!
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
True, and what the young people can't see is their future is non-existent, especially in the way they believe it to be.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
retirement
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
The UK teaching "profession" is riddled with lefty/liberal green idiots,who's sole purpose is to promote common core, the Libs and greens in the UK are proposing to allow 16 year old's to vote FFS!, most of them still can't tie their own boot laces, pull their trousers up, or put their caps on the right way , thanks to the lefty teaching unions and their befuddled members using the word discipline,much less enforcing it is totally out of the question
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
;o)
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
What I don't understand is government enforced monopolies and rights endowed to unions that should not exist. I am all for collective bargaining and holding a job hostage, because retraining and rehiring can be very costly. In the old days, (30's-70's) the government sometimes accorded more rights to the company, in other states, their favor was accorded to the union. And before the thirties, cops would always bust head for the organization, against the common worker. What I'm going to say is even more naive. Keep collective bargaining. Get the government to quit picking our winners and losers, and just prosecute violence that may occur because of fiscal standoffs.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Government unions are like robbing taxpayers worse than Congress.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Those unions are made up of people, just like you and me, they get paid for a job and pay taxes...they pay dues to maintain the freedom to organize and be represented, and to keep the playing field fair, for some the Union is as important as their faith.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
How many reports have there been about them playing and partying on the job? No they do not need a union. They don't have employers trying to take breaks and working hours away from them.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
You tell me, you sound like you have all the information. Yes they do need a union, one reason is because of people like you who view others with such judgement and believe the hype of management. You have not the slightest idea of what employers do or don't do, unless of course you are one, are you? ...and breaks are not union benefits, breaks are National laws. What do you mean by "working hours away from them"? I've noticed the most judgemental people are people who think somehow they are the righteous...are you the righteous?
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Told both the IBEW and The Amalgamated Meatcutters of North America to piss off during the '60s. Nothing's occurred that would make me change my mind.
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answered Aug 18, 2016 by Anonymous (2,293,500 points)
Never in my working lifetime has a union done me any good. The best paying/bennies job I had was non-union, pay merit based.
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